This week, 80/20 reduced their lead times on bars cut-to-length down to just 10 - 12 days. Add a day or 2 to process, and a few days for shipping - and its now possible to get custom bars in around 3 weeks! That's great news.
Full length bars remain in high demand, and lead times for those remain at around 20+ days - so for now, you'd be better off getting those bars cut to your size and saving money on shipping and not ending up with any scrap.
The soaring price of aluminum on the world market was already worrisome before the Ukraine situation, and now manufacturers are starting to pass those new rising costs onto consumers. 80/20 recently announced a price increase effective in mid-March. So if you have an upcoming project, it might be worthwhile to buy this week before prices increase.
Availability at both our San Diego facility and the Indiana 80/20 headquarters remains very good. Both companies stocked up to offset shortages towards the end of last year, and that means that shortages that other manufacturers are experiencing are not happening here. We've had a lot of calls in the last 60 days from competitor customers seeking stock and we have been able to help them in most cases.
Starting projects a little earlier is still a good way to approach the current situation with aluminum t-slot extrusions. Everything is taking a little longer, and costing a little more - but product availability is getting better and lead times are coming down.
Check back here every 2 - 3 weeks for an update or shoot us an email with your list of items you are looking for - if you want to pick them up in San Diego instead of having them ship direct by UPS from Indiana. Just send us your list to: info@fandl8020.com
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]]>As many of you know, our aluminum t-slot extrusion industry is one of many that have experienced severe supply chain challenges during the 2nd half of 2021. During this same time, incoming orders have literally jumped as businesses attempt to get back to normal. This led to price increases on 80/20 extrusion products, extended shipping times, shortages, and longer lead times to receive purchased products and parts.
Some Good News
In the last 30 days, lead times for products from 80/20 branded t-slot products have improved slightly. They are still much longer than in the past, and we have a long way to go to get back to normal. Labor shortages are still real impediments, especially with trucking companies across the US. And product shortages and price increases still make headlines each day, but we are hopeful that the worst may be behind us for aluminum t-slot extrusions.
Planning Is Key
We are still receiving regular shipments from 80/20 and direct shipments from the factory in Indiana are still leaving each and every day. But worker shortages and the higher volumes we are seeing as America gets back to work will probably mean that longer-than-normal lead times are here for a while. So what can we do? Planning is key to receiving critical products in time for projects and product roll-outs. In the past, an urgent request for a custom product could be fulfilled in a few short weeks. But going forward, companies will need to add more time in their planning schedules. Custom manufacturers and distributors like F&L are still receiving orders at a much higher pace than normal as businesses strive to make up for lost time. So we are encouraging our customers to get their orders in early and to create realistic schedules that reflect the current nation-wide t-slot extrusion industry situation.
Consider Order Type
Increased orders are great, but when paired with labor shortages, product shortages, and shipping constraints, they lead to longer lead times. But one way to improve lead times is to consider your order type. Custom assembled products take longer than a machined ready-to-assemble kit, and a kit takes longer than ordering stock bars and parts. So for some customers where schedules cannot be stretched, changing the type of order may be an option.
Improvements
We know that many customers cannot change the order type. So F&L is working hard to lower lead times across our entire business while keeping quality high. And we have seen improvements in many areas that are helping us get closer to meeting customer requirements now and for 2022. In the meantime, plan on ordering early and we will get you your products as soon as we possibly can.
Each day now, F&L is shipping higher volumes of quality products and custom framing product than we ever have in the past. Yet, lead times are still longer than we would like. It's today's reality and we are up for the challenge. Thanks for your patience.
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October 28, 2020
Dear Valued Customer,
Over the years, Motion Industries has made strategic acquisitions to grow our capabilities, giving us the opportunity to provide our customers with industry-leading expertise, an increased portfolio of brands, and an amplified service location footprint. I am pleased to announce that since August 1, F&L Industrial Solutions has joined Mi Automation Solutions Group. This separate and independent entity of Mi specializes in being the premier automation technology center with a concentration on automation components, systems, design, processes, and engineering know-how. Joe Schwartz, who has 34 years of experience in the automation industry, leads the team.
As a primary distributor of 80/20 solutions, F&L and its aluminum extrusion niche nicely supplement our Mi Automation Solutions Group. Their talented people will be instrumental in furthering our growth strategy geographically and in the automation arena – creating even more value for our customers in the coming years. We are pleased to welcome Mike Fanolla and Lori LeFeuvre and their team to the Motion family.
Mi Automation Solutions Group remains dedicated to working with the best suppliers and brands — expanding our automation inventory and services, while further enhancing our ability to best meet our customers’ needs. We are committed to devoting resources and designing unique solutions to grow this group’s key product category offerings — including control panels, conveyors, machine vision, motion control, network connectivity, pneumatics, robotics, and sensing I/O. Meanwhile, you’ll continue working with the same automation experts you’ve come to know and rely on.
By combining cutting-edge technologies with the rich expertise of focused, highly trained, knowledgeable people, we maximize the value we offer to our customers. We look forward to being Your First Choice for Automation, while continuing to be your partner in industry.
Best Regards,
Randy Breaux
President
Motion Industries
Mi Automation Solutions Group, F&L Division
12550 Stowe Dr. | Poway, CA 92064 | Phone: 858-602-1500
Sneeze guards (also called safety guards) are usually made with clear acrylic or clear polycarbonate panels and a frame to hold them in place. They are placed between employees and customers to prevent or reduce airborne particulate sharing. Cashiers are the most obvious examples. Another clear application is food buffet covers – which have largely been in place for decades – but are now almost mandatory for the suddenly discriminating consumer.
But how will employees feel about coming back to shared office or manufacturing environments like large shared work tables, assembly lines or cubicle systems? Employers are likely going to need to rethink how open an office or manufacturing line can be and what density makes sense in the new era of worldwide pandemics. Placing sneeze guards or full height dividers between working employees may continue a sense of community but also improve confidence that their air space is their own and safer.
Some inexpensive sneeze guards are just an acrylic panel, held up with lightweight feet. But these types can be tipped over and moved easily. For more sturdy and more permanent locations, buyers should look at aluminum framed sneeze guards made from t-slot extrusions. These can be mounted to tables, desks, workbenches or any horizontal or vertical surface with simple L brackets. They can also be built to be free standing.
Aluminum t-slot extrusions provide a strong, lightweight, corrosion resistant frame that has built in slots that make a perfect frame for acrylic panels or their safety-conscious alternative – polycarbonate.
F&L Industrial Solutions offers custom sneeze guards made from the top brand in aluminum t-slots – 80/20. 80/20 t-slot extrusions offer superior quality and a clear anodized finish that make them the best long-term investment in the t-slot marketplace. With over 8,000 compatible parts, their slogan is “The Erector Set For Engineers”. But you don’t have to be an engineer to purchase and assemble a basic sneeze guard for your business. It only takes a few fasteners to assemble a sneeze guard, usually with a single tool hex or Allen wrench.
To learn more about buying custom sized sneeze guards and other guarding options for your business, visit F&L Industrial Solution’s Sneeze Guard Page. F&L is an authorized Tier 1 distributor and manufacturer located in San Diego, California and they ship to companies and individuals all over the US.
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]]>F&L Industrial Solutions' quality management system is now ISO 9001:2015 certified. This means that F&L has implemented and passed a full review of its quality control processes at its Poway, Californial location.
The implementation of this Quality Management System (QMS) began in the fall of 2017 and required the participation and training of every employee. The quality system covers all aspects of manufacturing custom 80/20 brand aluminum t-slot extrusion framing, and the sales of t-slot aluminum extrusions and parts.
The full article can be found here:
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]]>Aluminum t-slot extrusion structures can provide increased efficiency, better manufacturing yields, higher employee morale, and provide more employee safety if properly designed. The primary functions of a guard, a barrier or an enclosure are as follows:
In its most elementary form, aluminum t-slot extrusions are connected together using extremely strong fasteners to create a basic frame. This allows them to be built on-site. The advantage of this is that you build a large structure in a room with a small doorway. It’s also a clean process; whereas, building on-site with wood or welding steel will create large contamination areas and may require ventilation and other environmental controls. And unlike wood or steel, structures made from t-slot extrusions can be easily disassembled and reassembled. For example, if you want to enlarge or make a structure smaller, you can do this easily.
Many industrial guarding projects or enclosures include walls, fences, doors, window, and other functional features. These are easy to design and implement using a wide variety of panel materials. These “panels” can provide entry/exit functionality, provide safe viewing, contaminant containment, projectile containment, sound abatement, and product movement through an automation system. Panel segment are usually referred to as walls, doors, floors and ceilings when designed for guarding or enclosures. And they can be sized and located to fit specific requirements for each application or company.
Panels work together with the aluminum t-slot framing to complete the safety guard, wall or enclosure. Panels are often made of clear polycarbonate when observation of the internal process is warranted, with polycarbonate being the safest clear material for non-blast applications. Clear acrylic can be used in some applications, but it can shatter when subject to an impact or an explosion. Glass is prohibitively expensive and can also shatter, unless blast-resistant glass is used which is on the most expensive side of guarding materials.
Wire mesh, aluminum plates, and plastics such as HDPE and ABS are also popular panel materials. Wire mesh, for example, allows observation and security while presenting less of a complete barrier than solid panels. In many cases where flying debris and airborne particulates are not a safety concern, wire mesh can be a better alternative than solid panels. Wire mesh and expanded metal are common panel types for security cages and structures.
For panels where visibility is not required, common materials such as ABS and HDPE provide low-cost containment and safety. They are easily machined and come in a wide variety of color options.
Doors small and large are often added to an enclosure or safety guard to provide functional access when it safe. Doors can be fitted with electronic sensors that turn off a machine or a process when a door is opened to ensure operator and outside personnel safety. Doors and hatches allow faster and easier maintenance of a machine or process when the guarding is placed in close proximity to the machine or process. In situations where complete temporary clean rooms are built around a process, doors may provide access and awareness that they are entering a different environment.
Ceilings on larger enclosures provide more complete containment, and a structure to mount lighting and filters such as commercial HEPA filters to. Ceiling design requires careful assessment of the fire code, as they can hinder internal fire suppression systems – so choosing the design of the overall safety structure has multiple requirements.
Besides being almost as easy to assemble as “Legos”, aluminum t-slot extrusions offer superb utility when it comes to customization and mounting other items such as computers, control boxes, arms, shelves, racks, tables surfaces, valves, boxes, etc. The “t-slot” of the bar when used with a “t-nut” provides this utility by allowing basic bolts to connect to the sliding, threaded t-nut in the slot (as long as it has the right thread size). The ability to mount anything easily anywhere on the structure makes aluminum t-slot extrusions a very flexible system for changes or adjustments over time.
Unlike welded steel structures, aluminum is light yet strong. For the same strength, its about ½ the weight of steel – making structures easier to move and easier to assemble. And as they can be carried into a space as individual components (before assembly), the possible methods of transportation are much more flexible. For example, you can ship small structures in boxes by UPS or Fedex, and hand carry them into a building versus using a forklift and a crane for a welded structure.
Aluminum offers superb corrosion resistance, and over time, puts less airborne particles in the air; hence, its preferred status within the clean room community. While Aluminum can corrode, most t-slot aluminum extrusions are anodized, providing a hard coating that prevents airborne and waterborne corrosion.
Custom guarding, barriers and enclosures made from aluminum t-slot structures offer easy and inexpensive customization and so many other benefits to manufacturing engineers, facility managers and safety officers. And because it can be disassembled and repurposed later in life, it offers unparalleled value for your investment dollar. So when you are next faced with a manufacturing challenge or safety concern, remember that aluminum t-slot extrusions can be an excellent cost-effective solution.
At F&L Industrial Solutions, we design, machine and build guards, barriers and enclosures almost every day and we offer free design services to create the framing solution that is just right for you. We are a Tier 1 authorized distributor and manufacturer for 80/20 brand aluminum t-slot extrusions. All we need to get started is a sketch with dimensions with call-outs for any doors or hatches you want or need. We would be happy to send you a quotation at no charge, just email us at: info@fandl8020.com or call us at 1-858-602-1500. We will be happy to help you.
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Dangerous flying debris is a leading cause of injury in the workplace, and an enclosure can insulate workers from machines or processes that produce or have the potential to produce dangerous flying objects.
If an internal machine or process produces dangerous fumes or particulates, an enclosure can prevent or reduce those contaminants from entering the worker’s environment. Sometimes these types of enclosures are designed for fume extraction or have a HEPA filter mounted on the top of the unit.
Similar to #2 above, sometimes enclosures are required to purify the air coming into the unit, or to maintain specific humidity levels so that scientific testing or other process can be done more reliably.
Many types of research use enclosures to protect workers from accidental splashing or exposure to blood-borne pathogens, drugs or other types of dangerous fluids.
This is probably the type of enclosure everyone is most familiar with – the type that prevents a person from getting their hand or finger injured in a machine. In many manufacturing environments, enclosures and safety guards made from t-slot extrusions provide an extra level of safety for workers that are around machines that could hurt them. While common sense would assume you would stay away from dangerous machines, OSHA has determined that certain machines require an enclosure or safety guarding to prevent worker injuries. Did you know that OSHA approved safety guards must require a tool to remove them? That's right, if you have a simple latch or thumb wheel - that is not within OSHA code.
Enclosures are often recommended for noisy machines or other loud processes to both protect nearby worker’s hearing, and improve the workplace satisfaction of workers. To improve noise reduction, use thicker materials and gaskets on the panels and doors.
Some enclosures are made to house lasers and other lighting that can damage your eyes. There are special types of plastics used for the viewing panes of these types of enclosures, so operators can see what is going on with jeopardizing their eyes or health. They are not cheap, but neither are lasers.
Sometimes enclosures are used to just keep things clean in between manufacturing processes or during temporary storage.
Reptile and bird enthusiasts often create professional enclosures to house their pets and provide a natural habitat that is good for the living organism, yet enhances the view-ability and enjoyment by the owner.
Sometimes enclosures are needed to keep valuable items secure. These enclosures can be very large like a tool room at an automotive manufacturer or a chip storage room at a computer manufacturer, or small and mobile – like a rolling cart that is locked with medicine in a hospital environment
Once you identify why you need an enclosure, the next step is to choose what type of enclosure you want or need. Enclosures come in two general varieties – Encapsulating or Partial enclosures.
Partial Enclosures are made to sit directly on the floor or on the top of a table. Partial enclosures usually do not include all 6 sides. Many times the machine or process to be enclosed it already at its location and it would be too difficult or costly to move it – so the enclosure must be built around an existing item. For example, a large plastic injection molding machine or a printing press would usually be mounted directly to the floor; consequently, an enclosure would have to be built around the existing machine.
Encapsulating Enclosures are made to fully contain a device, a process, a room, or even a living thing like a snake at the zoo. Encapsulating enclosures give the owner more control over what goes on inside of the enclosure – often to prevent the mixing of what goes on inside with what goes on outside. Like previously mentioned, preventing debris, fumes, noise, particulates, or liquids from interacting with the work environment in which they reside is a common goal.
All aluminum t-slot enclosures have several common characteristics, no matter what type of enclosure they are or what their actual purpose is.
Viewing – almost all enclosures allow viewing of the internal process. Humans love to see what is going on in an enclosure, so most enclosures are with a lot of viewing panes. In most cases, clear polycarbonate (Lexan) is used as it is virtually shatterproof and provides the most cost effective safety while providing window-like transparency. Clear acrylic is also used occasionally where optics are more important than impact safety as acrylic is optically more clear, and scratches a little less easy than polycarbonate. Glass, especially safety tempered glass is sometimes required for chemical and blast chambers due to its superior resistance to heat and fire. No matter what the material, viewing is a common important component of any enclosure.
Entry & Exit – how will the operator get in and out of the enclosure is very important as it usually needs to be done on a very frequent basis. For enclosures on an assembly line meant to prevent human injury, they sometimes have electronic locks that shut off a machine when the door is opened – thus drastically reducing the chance of an injury, even if the employee does not follow the safety protocol. Sometimes an enclosure is simply intended to prevent dust from falling into an open can while it is being filled with soup – in this case it would be designed as a canopy above the processing area, minimizing the possibility of contaminates getting into the final product.
Enclosure Size & Strength – for encapsulating enclosures that will provide a platform to hold the machine or process, it is important to know the size needed and the strength required. By strength, we mean how strong does the table or cart frame need to be to support both the machine or object, and the intended enclosure. Based on the answer to these type of questions, we will build the enclosure out of 1”, 1.5”, 2”, 3” or 6” bars – and thin or thick viewing panels to safely accommodate the item. If the machine that is being enclosed is capable of throwing a bottle cap 500 feet, we would probably use a thicker polycarbonate panel than it the machine could only throw it 5 feet. Especially for safety-related enclosures, specifying the right amount of strength and safety margin in the design is paramount.
Functionality – many enclosures require some type of functionality beyond basic containment and guarding. It is not unusual for enclosures in a manufacturing setting to include lighting, cameras, safety locks, filters, electrical outlets, insulation, fluid pans, conveyor system, robots or other systems. Some of these functions require modification, capabilities or facility by the enclosure itself. So it’s always a good idea to think about and discuss these possibilities before you design your enclosure.
Installation – adding a safety enclosure or guard to an existing piece of equipment often requires the equipment to be shut down during the installation and testing times. Consequently, this should be considered when designing an enclosure. If down time is critical, much of the enclosure may be able to be built ahead of time at an off-site facility – then installed quickly to reduce downtime. However, if the location dictates that everything must come up a winding staircase and through a standard size door – then you may be stuck with an onsite build and a longer installation period. Experienced designers will ask about the installation location and schedule to make sure the enclosure or guarding design fits with your expectation and business requirements.
Enclosures build from t-slot aluminum extrusions by F&L Industrial Solutions are designed in partnership with our customers to ensure they meet any and all requirements. We utilize professional CAD Design software to create and illustrate the enclosure’s features to customers, and to make certain all machining and cutting of components are done precisely. Building an enclosure with 80/20 t-slot aluminum extrusions can be fun and informative for simple or basic solutions.
T-slot aluminum extrusions like 80/20 are our preferred material because they are easy to build with and offer an almost unlimited catalog of compatible parts and components (over 8,000 and growing). 80/20 t-slot aluminum is cleaner and stronger than steel, and it can be built with just a few common tools without welding torches or having to paint it afterwards to prevent corrosion. Many DIY engineers find building with t-slot to be intellectually stimulating and rewarding – once they get the hang of it. But for more comprehensive designs or concepts, F&L Industrial Solutions would be happy to design and build a custom 80/20 aluminum t-slot enclosure for you or your business. Or perhaps, have us design and machine all the parts, and you build it! We work with customers in all different ways and I am sure we could help you build a great aluminum t-slot enclosure.
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Up on top of this same vertical, a fancier connector is used for the corner - it's the 4441 3 Way - Rounded Corner connector. If you have a top shelf on your table, cart or frame - you might not use this type of connector as it would get partially covered. But if your frame doesn't have a top - or the top is using the inside slot - then using this type of decorative connector is an option.
As this type of connector is substantially more expensive than a standard internal fastener, we usually only recommend it for trade shows, corporate lobbies, product samples or customer centers. They are available for 1", 1.5" and 40mm extrusions.
Using closed-faced extrusions and decorative corner connectors can help you create a frame that looks a little less industrial and a little more modern. Check them out on your next build or have us design one for you.
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]]>What is it about t-slot aluminum extrusions that makes some people so passionate about using them to build almost anything? While there are many advantages of using Aluminum over other materials such as steel (click here to learn more), the unique and main utility of t-slots extrusions is being able to connect almost anything to them easily. At F&L Industrial Solutions, we help people create solutions using 80/20 t-slot extrusions - so we are very familiar with the how and why t-slot is universally loved by engineers and framing builders around the world.
The magic of aluminum t-slots comes from two key ingredients: the t-slot in the extrusion or bar, and the infamous t-nut. Working together, this dynamic duo of hardware makes connecting almost anything easy with no machining required. Let’s break this down even further.
Every 80/20 t-slot extrusion has that famous slot. You can buy 80/20 extrusions with slots on all 4 sides, 3 sides, 2 sides, or 1 side (if there is no slots – its not a t-slot!). The shape of the t-slot extrusion offers slots on every size PLUS the design of the shape retains critical weight-bearing strength. The result is a strong bar with mounting slots available along its entire length. Other brands of t-slot extrusions have slightly different shapes. We use 80/20 because it the company ensures superior batch-to-batch quality, and the product offers the very best utility and compatibility.
Once you have a slot available to you, all you need to create a connection is a t-nut. T-nuts are strong plates that slide into a slot and provide a threaded hole that a matching bolt can be screwed into.
To mount pretty much anything, all you need the right length bolt with the right thread type that matches your T-nut.
80/20 Inc. also offers a multitude of cool add-ons that all mount to the t-slot with a t-nut. Here are just some of the items you can add to any frame.
Stength, ease-of-use, and outstanding utility are why so many people love designing and building with 80/20 t-slot extrusions and t-nuts.
For more information about how F&L Industrial Solutions can help you build with 80/20 t-slot aluminum extrusions, call us at: 1-858-602-1500
or send us an email at: info@fandl8020.com
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The July issue of EBN is out today covering pivots, deflection charts, bracket assemblies, screw/bolt types and the newest products from 80/20 Inc. Stay up-to-date with the latest information on building 80/20 t-slot aluminum extrusions by subscribing to Exhibit Builder News. Read it now here:
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New maple butcher block table tops can now be ordered online. These NSF Certified Food Safe blocks are 1 3/4" thick with urethane-based satin finish, and are perfect for adding to any 80/20 t-slot aluminum extrusion frame or structure. Two sizes are available:
1P4359 30" x 48"
1P4360 31" x 60"
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There's a fairly simple way to identify the right bar by comparing the maximum weight the frame needs to support and the point where the bar will begin to bend (called a bar's deflection).
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The latest issue of Extrusion Builder News is out today - featuring information about tabletop substrates and mounting to t-slot extrusions. Extrusion Builder News is published by F&L Industrial Solutions, a Tier 1 National Distributor for 80/20 Inc. To read the new issue, click here:
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The new smooth series includes 1" x 1" through 2" x 4" t-slot extrusions with the modern smooth finish, and they are priced the same as the original align-a-groove surface bars. You can find them in the 10 Series Bar section of our website.
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Many people wonder how long does it take to get items they order from our store. The answer is....it depends on what you order. Basically, all of your items will ship on the same day, so whatever item takes the longest - is when your shipment will leave. Here is an overview of our normal shipping times:
These times are when your UPS shipment will leave the Indiana factory. Allow 1 - 3 additional days for most locations for shipping.
Note: Many bars are now available in yellow and black, so those are generally not considered custom parts - so they will leave at the same time as regular clear anodized bars.
If you order really early in the day, your order may ship slightly sooner than the times listed above.
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]]>Besides our custom-cut to size 80/20 bars, we now have several stock bars available on our eStore in the following sizes: 12", 24", 36", 48", 60" and 72". To celebrate this occasion, we are offering everyone the chance to save 10% on all 80/20 10 series 1" and 15 series 1.5" bars until the end of April by using the following discount codes at checkout:
For 10 series bars: Barcrazy10
For 15 series bars: Barcrazy15
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